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Groupon And Living Social Are "Gorillas Among Ants"

While the daily deals space is increasingly crowded, Groupon and LivingSocial are "Gorillas among ants," says comScore.

As you can see in today's chart the gap between Groupon and LivingSocial and the rest of the deals sites is huge. (This is uniques visiting each site on a monthly basis. Deals are a mobile phenomenon, so this is mostly a directional indicator.)

According to comScore these top two players account for 90% of the visits to daily deals sites.

It's good for Groupon and LivingSocial, but over time a bunch of "ants" can become problematic. As the "ants" get more and more daily deals for themselves, it will affect Groupon and LivingSocial.

That's why both companies are shifting to a real time model offering multiple deals in a limited time frame. That's a much more difficult model emulate.

 

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What's the barrier to entry in the daily deal space?

There are now officially one billion "Groupon" clones, including one I am advising.  I hear all the time, "The concept is so simple, the barrier to entry looks so low".  This could not be more wrong...

As is the case with many businesses, scale is the key to winning and dominating the category.  While I still believe LivingSocial is well positioned to be the long term winner (I know, most think I am crazy but I have my reasons), Groupon is scaling quickly.

I ran a Groupon recently for a company I advise to experience it myself.  The sales person was efficient and smart, the process strightforward and the Groupon sold out in less than 36 hours.

Want to know the barrier to entry in the deal space?  Bill Gross hit it on the head...


Bill Gross
"#Groupon is now in 46 countries and has about 8,000 employees, up from 1,500 just a year ago." Andrew Mason, CEO @ #D9

Groupon, as everyone knows by now, is growing like crazy. How crazy? CEO Andrew Mason just revealed at the D9 technology conference that he now employs 8,000 people, which is up from 1,500 a year ago. That means it grew headcount by 433 percent.

About half of its employees are sales people. Signing up local businesses to offer group discounts requires a lot of hand-holding and sales calls across many local markets. Groupon is now in 46 countries.

Groupon is a selling machine, so it needs a lot of sales people. But these aren’t door-to-door salesmen. The only way Groupon can scale this sales organization is through centralized call centers with different teams focussed on different markets. (Yelp does the same thing).

And you thought it was all about Groupon’s comedians-turned-copywriters and the “Groupon Voice.” (The company employs a lot of copywriters also, but they don’t have thousands of them). It’s a sales culture through and through. Facebook or Google would be bragging about how many engineers they have. Groupon crows about sales.

via @techcrunch

 

Are Money-Saving Group Deal Sites Taking Up Too Much of Your Time?

By Dawn Kawamoto

See full article from DailyFinance:http://srph.it/lTBss2

A penny saved, they say, is a penny earned -- which certainly explains the popularity of group-buying websites. But they also say that time is money, which is why you may be feeling as if the daily slog through your inbox's growing list of discount deals is becoming more trouble than it's worth.


The temptation to sign up for "just one more" deal site is likely to become even greater with a host of new competitors coming online soon, featuring an ever-widening range of merchants offering deep discounts in hopes of winning repeat business. Savvy consumers, however, can save both time and money by approaching group buying with a laser focus on the deals they're most likely to be interested in, rather than snapping up goods and services just because the deals look like bargains.

And more options are becoming available for weeding out the deals you want from the deals you don't, say industry players.Aggregation sites are increasingly popping up, and niche group-buying sites are forming rapidly.

Sites to Suit Your Specific Needs

Niche group-buying sites serve a dual role for online publications and websites, allowing them to leverage their existing readership bases and advertising relationships -- for example,ParentsDeals, which was created by the publisher of Parents and American Babymagazines and is hosted on the Parents.com site. Other niche sites are being formed to serve particular clientele and distinguish themselves from broad-based players like Groupon and LivingSocial, say industry players.

Environmentally conscious shoppers can pick from among such eco-friendly niche sites asGreenDeals operated by Green America, or standalone green site ethicalDeal.Green Box Topoffers deals designed for those interested in eating organic and locally grown foods, which likely draws a different crowd thanOmaha Steaks' overstocks daily deal.

And the list of niches sites goes on, among them:

  • Spa Sites:SpaRahRahrun by spa information site SpaFinder;TheRightDeal operated by spa information site SpaWeek; andDaily Dealsrun by spa and hotel listing site SpaandTravel.com.
  • Luxury Sites:Gilt Groupe, a standalone site that focuses on fashion, home furnishings and travel;Ideeli, a standalone site for fashion, home and beauty; andOne Kings Lane, a standalone site for home furnishings.
  • Family Sites:Sweet Dealsrun by mom's site Mamapedia;Plum District, operated as a standalone daily deals site for moms.
  • Jewish Sites:JDeal, which offers such deals on kosher foods and restaurants;KosherKouponz, which offers discounts on Judaica items from kiddush cups to etrog boxes; andJewpon, which sets itself apart with a bilingual English/Hebrew website.
Consumers who have signed up for a number of niche sites should consider creating an email filter that redirects all their daily deals into a separate inbox. Setting up a filter for Gmail,Yahoo email, oremail using AOL(which publishesDailyFinance)is relatively easy, and there resources out there for other email providers as well.

Reduce Aggravation with Aggregation

Deal aggregation sites like Yipit and The Deal Map provide consumers with another alternative for reducing the daily deal deluge to areas of specific areas of interest and location. Both companies pull their daily deals from hundreds of websites, from niche players like Green Box Top to industry titans Groupon and LivingSocial.

The Deal Map, for example, has 12 categories that range from health and beauty to home and garden to medical, for example. Yipit slices it even thinner, allowing consumers to pick their interests from among 51 categories such as pets, bridal, skydiving or kids. Personalize your profile, and the aggregator sends you only daily deals that fit your interests.

Based on category selections made by Yipit's users, here's how its top 10 categories shaped up:

popular daily deal categories

"We'll add more categories if it makes it easier for users," says Jim Moran, Yipit co-founder, noting that as more businesses try marketing themselves on group-buying sites, a wider range of categories may be needed. "We now have air conditioning repair companies offering daily deals."

Back in February 2010, Yipit worked with 20 daily deal companies and offered a couple hundred deals a month. Now, it aggregates more than 500 deal sites, and offers about 20,000 deals per month, says Moran.

Location, Location, Location

The Deal Map sources its deals from over 400 sites: small businesses, national retailers, and group buying heavyweights like Groupon, says Dan Visnick, the company's vice president of marketing.

"People want more relevant deals and want to select from the categories they're interested in," says Visnick. Location is a key filtering criterion as well: 50% of Deal Map's users have taken advantage of the company's mobile app to find deals in close proximity to their mobile device.

But after selecting location as that first slice toward personalizing daily deals picks, consumers will often select more than one category to draw from for their daily deals, Visnick says.

Visnick's gut estimate is that, a year or so ago, 85% of the daily deals came from general deal sites like Groupon and LivingSocial, but that the dramatic rise in niche sites has lowered that market share to around 65% today.

Groupon, LivingSocial Still Rule the Roost

Recognizing the trend, Groupon and LivingSocial are moving to take their broad reach into the niche arena. Earlier this month, Groupon teamed up with Live Nation Entertainment toform a joint-venture to offer deals on live events like concerts, theatrical performances and sports under GrouponLive.

LivingSocial is also forming some categories: It kicked off its Family Edition in November, and debuted its Escapes site for quick, nearby excursions following its acquisition of Urban Escapes last fall.

 

For now, LivingSocial plans to focus on its existing product offerings, rather than creating a number of new categories, says Maire Griffin, a LivingSocial spokeswoman. She notes that despite the onslaught of niche sites, LivingSocial and Groupon continue to hold about 90% of the group buying market. And both companies' efforts to expand their geographic reach internationally and domestically are keeping them hopping.

Although the number of players in the group buying industry has exploded over the past year with more niche players and aggregators, Forrester Research analyst Sucharita Mulpuru doesn't see any immediate danger for the big sites.

"Most people find out about deals by getting emails from companies like Groupon directly. That's not going to be displaced by aggregators," Mulpuru says.

Five iPhone Apps to Save You Money

Posted May 12, 2011 9:00am by Megan O'Neil 

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We all remember our mothers digging through the Sunday edition of the newspaper, clipping and cataloging coupons for her next shopping trip. And we all know that we swore not to turn into our mothers.

But no-one wants to pay full price for things that we think we can get at a discount. With a seemingly limitless supply of digital coupons and deals now available on your mobile device, you don’t have to. We have assembled the very best list of coupon-related smartphone apps for the iPhone, Android phones and BlackBerries that will keep your phone in your hand, and your money in your pocket.

Tap into deals with the iPhone

Groupon (free) is designed not only to connect you with discount products and experiences, but also to share with friends and family. You can buy a deal yourself – like a $19 whitewater rafting trip – and then refer it to someone else, or you can buy it directly for someone else as a gift. When you refer an item to a friend, you can earn Groupon dollars, saving yourself even more money. And when you go to use your coupons, you don’t have to print anything off. Just carry your iPhone with you.

Similarly, the free LivingSocial app uses location-based software to create a list of discounts and deals in your area that are then emailed to you. But this app has an additional feature that is designed specifically to connect you with great – and discounted – vacations. For example, I came across a package for a two-night stay at a winery in Napa, breakfast included, for $300 bucks.

Coupon Sherpa (free) is the app to have for those who shop by habit. That’s because the app allows you to shop for coupons and discounts by store, and by product category. So if you are heading to Target anyway, open up the Coupon Sherpa and see if any of your favorite items are on sale. It is always fun to save money, even if it’s only $5 off some kitty litter.

The free MobiQpons app is lighter on the exotic vacations, and heavier on deals for the local drugstore. It is probably best used when you are heading out for some local errands and need an oil change – $5 off at Jiffy Lube – or an ice cream - $3 off any cake at Baskin Robbins. Deals can also be searched for by store and by category, and there is something for everyone. One additional cool feature is a savings tab: it tallies up exactly how many coupon dollars you have logged.

Checking multiple coupon apps for the best deals can get a little time consuming. For those who are eager to get straight to the point, there are a couple of handy discount aggregators. The Daily Shopper app (free) allows you to construct a list of stores that you want to see coupons from. If, for example, you get all of your children’s toys from WalMart, you can sign up for notifications from that store alone. Similarly, the free iDealyzer Pro app pulls deals and coupons from discount sites such as Woot! and Groupon so you can review them all in one spot.

Shopping behaviors of the affluent are changing...

Fascinating article from the Wall St. Journal about the changing shopping behaviors of affluent consumers.  Similar patterns that occur in the mass market are appearing in the affluent... coupon use, sale sensitivity, trading down, buying less and reduced brand awareness.  This trend is significant for many retailers and, interestingly, also for the deal guys (Groupon, Living Social et al).

Signs of this are already showing up with the new found emphasis on travel deals, high end spa packages and the success of sites like Gilt.

Now please excuse me while I throw on my Gucci sandals and run my Bentley over the the car wash... I have a  coupon!

FASHION

Groupon Fights To Keep Its Lead


Forbes.com

Brendan Coffey

When daily-deal pioneer Groupon spurned a $6 billion acquisition offer from Google in December, the reaction was mostly in the nature of "Are they crazy?" Sales for the Chicago company had exploded from $33 million to $760 million in a year, thanks to a burgeoning list of 50 million subscribers who jumped on daily e-mails offering deep discounts on everything from restaurant meals to lawyer consults.

Since then the company, founded by Andrew Mason three and a half years ago, looks to be suffering the death of a thousand cuts—paper cuts, that is, from class actions around the terms of its deals, state regulator cease-and-desist letters around its marketing of alcohol and the me-too business plans of 425 competitors that have flooded the marketplace. As Groupon preps an initial public offering rumored to value it at $15 billion, the question is: Are these problems just annoyances or signs of a more serious struggle to transform its cult following into a sustainable business for the long run?

Groupon's appeal is its simplicity: It e-mails its subscribers one deal a day with a deep discount, say $50 worth of food and drink for $25 or a $100 spa treatment for $40. Groupon keeps half the revenue, the retailer gets the other half without having spent any money up front, and the consumer gets a deal. Peter Krasilovksy, of research firm BIA/Kelsey, projects the daily-deal segment will grow 49% this year to $1.3 billion.

Groupon has emphasized the use of its discount vouchers toward alcohol at bars, restaurants and retailers. The Groupon Web page for first-time users features an image of two cocktails, and its ad copy often touts that drinks like margaritas, ouzo or beer are included in the deal. State regulators are only just now taking notice: In February Massachusetts sent a letter to Groupon demanding it stop allowing vouchers for alcohol, saying it violates a 1984 happy hour law, and requested details on all its deals. Massachusetts is likely only the first of 25 or more states that will find fault with Groupon's approach, according to Thomas Henry, a Pittsburgh lawyer specializing in alcohol law.

The legal issue is that regulators may decide that Groupon, which takes a cut of sales, has been selling alcohol without a license, fine it and perhaps force the company to get its own liquor license. This may be a problem for Groupon even in states with liberal alcohol laws, like California. Chris Albrecht, deputy director of the California Alcohol Beverage Control, says his department has received some inquiries about the coupons but hasn't decided on the legality.

More likely--and as unappetizing for Groupon--its local business customers could face hefty fines or loss of their licenses. Groupon doesn't appear to be greatly concerned, insisting the laws don't apply to its business. "Chicken and beer for $10, rather than $20, is very different than all-you-can-drink offers for $1. I don't think our kind of coupons are necessarily understood by the law," says Eric Lefkofsky, Groupon's biggest shareholder.

Another problem that has popped up of late involves complications over accounting for sales tax: Who pays it, and on what amount--the face value or the amount that consumers paid? And who collects that 10% federal surcharge on the ubiquitous tanning-parlor deals? Says Lefkofsky, "We can't worry about the noise that the legal system creates, and we just have to keep doing what's right."

Groupon's real problem may be the unbreakable law of competition. In the past year 425 me-too companies have flooded the daily-deal marketplace. That has created deal fatigue--the percentage of deal e-mails that are opened has fallen from an astounding 66% last year to a still very good 40% of late, says analyst Krasilovsky.

The competition could be ravaging revenues. Groupon sales plunged 30% in February and another 32% in March, according to James Moran, cofounder of Yipit.com, which tracks daily-deal companies and aggregates their deals into one e-mail for its own mailing list. In March it appeared Groupon's market share, 70% at the start of the year, slid to that of its closest competitor, Amazon.com-backed LivingSocial. Across the top 20 metro areas that month both Groupon and LivingSocial generated $1 million a day from their deals, says Moran. In February Groupon generated $1.5 million a day from its deals and LivingSocial only $500,000.


A Groupon spokesperson says its market share is 80% and points out that Yipit is a competitor. Lefkofsky says copycats have had "a minimal effect" on market share.

Recent entrants to daily deals include the New York Times Co. and Travelzoo, whose first offer in New York City generated more cash than any Groupon offer in Manhattan ever did. Social media behemoth Facebook is field-testing its Groupon competitor in select cities now. Google, too, is rumored to be planning its own flavor, Circles.

Groupon isn't standing still. It now has 70 million subscribers worldwide, adding about 1 million a week. Two weeks ago it unveiled Groupon Now, a smartphone app that gives immediate, localized deals.

It makes sense for Groupon to move beyond vouchers, given indications that just 20% of customers using Groupons return to a retailer for a second, nondiscounted visit. That's a steep price to pay when selling a service for 75% off or more after commission, according to RetailNet Group, a Waltham, Mass. retail strategy consultancy. And, except for a Gap promotion and some others, national retailers aren't flocking to use Groupon, appearing more inclined to replicate the process than use the company, says Daniel O'Connor, RetailNet's chief.

That leaves mom-and-pop businesses as the addressable market. A good business but one that raises the question of whether Groupon is worth $15 billion at an IPO. "Anybody can build a mailing list, but discounts don't mean loyalty," O'Connor says. "Groupon is more of a business model than a company." A business model that works, for the moment.

LivingSocial Says It Will Overtake Groupon in January 2012 via @mashable

This news is not surprising to me.  I met with an investor earlier this week who told me almost every deal pitched to him these days is in the deal space.  Living Social is obviously well funded and gaining ground.  Amazon's help is not to be taken lightly.  Additionally, there are competitors popping up everywhere, focusing on specific geography, vertical markets and other variations.  

Groupon may still win in the long run but this space will not look the same six months from now.  

 


Via Mashable by
 Sarah Kessler

Among the glut of daily deal sites that have emerged in Groupon’s wake, none is as serious a competitor to the group-buying site as LivingSocial.

Since its group deals launched in December 2009, the company has garnered a total of $232 million in funding — $175 million of it from Amazon.

That might seem like chump change compared to the $950 million Series D Groupon recently raised or its rumored $25 billion IPO-to-be. But according to this U.S.-market revenue data for both sites, compiled by LivingSocial, it’s been enough to seriously challenge Groupon.


Group_buying_marketshare

The chart uses information that both group buying sites publish daily: the price of their deals and the number they sell. It seems LivingSocial’s market share has been steadily increasing since 2009. Currently, for every $10 of deals sold on either platform, $4 of them take place at LivingSocial.

If both companies continue to grow at their current rates, LivingSocial’s portion of sales will overtake Groupon’s in January 2012.

Groupon’s decreasing market share in U.S. markets does not necessarily indicate decreasing sales. A leaked internal memo suggests that Groupon’s annual revenue grew from $33 million in 2009 to $760 million in 2010. The change in market share has more to do with the fact that LivingSocial is just growing faster. It had 10 million subscribers in December, and more than 24 million subscribers three months later.

As the company starting with 100% market share in 2008, Groupon really only had one direction to go in once competitors got into the game. Fortunately for them, the entire market is exploding. A recent report from daily deal aggregator Local Offer Network says that group buying will grow 138% to $2.7 billion in 2011.

Whichever way you slice it, however, LivingSocial is a serious competitor. Ben Horowitz, a Groupon investor, recently told The New York Times that he wasn’t worried about new competitors because it would be difficult to build a salesforce comparable to the one at Groupon. Now, as LivingSocial nips at Groupon’s heels, it might be time to reconsider that theory.

 

LivingSocial Offers 50% Off at Amazon

Is this the shape of things to come?  The number sold is now approaching 500,000!  I have to imagine that this deal is better for LivingSocial than it is for Amazon.  Clearly people will sign up for LS who are not currently members.  Wondering why Groupon couldn't pull this off?  It's because Amazon invested $175M into LS and they want a return! 

A little more than a month after Amazon invested $175 million in the startup, LivingSocial is offering users a deal to purchase a $20 gift card to Amazon.com for $10.

The deal is available to LivingSocial members in all 170 markets and runs from now until 8 a.m. ET on Thursday.

More than 230,000 vouchers have been purchased two hours after the offer went live, meaning that the deal has already generated $2.3 million in gross sales for the startup — not bad, especially given that members are limited to one voucher per person.